Should America Send More Troops To Afghanistan And Try To Decisively Defeat The Taliban, Or Should America Cut Its Losses And Withdraw?

Nine years after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, the U.S. has failed to defeat the Taliban (partly because the Bush Administration focused on Iraq, not Afghanistan). Thousands of American soldiers have died (along with thousands of Afghan Muslim civilians), and America has spent billions of dollars, in Afghanistan. The American public is tiring of the war in Afghanistan. Many Americans now think the war in Afghanistan is not worth fighting, and they don’t want to keep sending more American troops and American money to Afghanistan to finish the job.

After 9/11, the Bush Administration blamed Al Qaeda for the 9/11 attacks, and blamed the Taliban government in Afghanistan for providing a base for Al Qaeda. The U.S. then invaded Afghanistan, overthrew the Taliban government, helped set up and support an elected Afghan government, and continued to fight Taliban forces.

Now, nine years later, President Obama has tripled the number of American troops in Afghanistan to 95,000, but they are spread thin in some regions, and they cannot hold on to territory. The Afghan police and army are developing very slowly. The Obama Administration warns that the Taliban are taking back territory and making a serious comeback.

U.S. officials warn that if the Taliban retake Afghanistan, then Al Qaeda would again have a stable base from which to plot attacks against targets inside the U.S. In addition, U.S. officials warn that the Taliban and Al Qaeda would be in a better position to expand their control and influence into other parts of Asia.

American allies have announced that they are not willing to leave their troops in Afghanistan indefinitely.

Many Afghans, and the Taliban, believe the U.S. will eventually abandon Afghanistan, just as the U.S. abandoned Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal, opening the door to a Taliban takeover in the 1990s.

American Muslims are a unique American community when it comes to the issue of Afghanistan. While most Americans supported the American invasion of Afghanistan, most American Muslims believed the invasion was unjustified. In addition, many American Muslims feel a religious connection to the Afghan people, as fellow Muslims.

Should America continue to send more troops to Afghanistan in an attempt to defeat the Taliban once and for all? Or should America cut its losses and begin to pull back?

Arguments By Those Who Believe That America Should Send More Troops To Afghanistan And Try To Completely Defeat The Taliban

1. The 1998 bombings of U.S. Embassies in Africa and the 9/11 attacks originated from Afghanistan. The Taliban government gave Al Qaeda a safe haven where Al Qaeda planned and prepared for these attacks. America asked the Taliban to turn Osama Bin Ladin over to America after the 1998 bombings and after 9/11, but the Taliban continued to protect Bin Ladin. America had to eliminate the Taliban government, and America must prevent its return.

2. Before 9/11, the Taliban were evil oppressors or ignorant Muslims who were misinterpreting Islam to justify a power grab. If America withdraws, there will be a bloody civil war; the weak Afghan military will collapse; and then the Taliban will eventually re-establish a government that will once again oppress the Afghan people, especially women, ethnic minorities, and religious minorities.

3. Al Qaeda’s recent attempts to attack America have failed, because Al Qaeda has been on the run, and it has been unable to effectively plan those attacks. Due to poor planning and execution, Al Qaeda’s bombs failed to detonate during the 2009 Christmas Day plot to bomb a plane flying to Detroit, and during the 2010 plot to bomb Times Square. If America doesn’t completely defeat the Taliban, the Taliban will allow Al Qaeda to re-establish training camps in Afghanistan to plan more effective attacks on American cities. In light of Al Qaeda’s many grievances about American foreign policy in the Muslim world, there will be more plots like these if Al Qaeda gets breathing room.

4. America must prove to friends and enemies that it doesn’t run from a fight. America must prove to the Afghan government and others that America is a reliable ally that doesn’t abandon its friends. America must prove to the Taliban and Al Qaeda that no one gets away with attacking the American homeland.

5. America has not yet succeeded in Afghanistan, because the Bush Administration did not put in the necessary resources. America can defeat the Taliban, now that America has a president who has made the war against the Taliban a priority.

6. America won’t be alone. The Afghan government will continue the fight against the Taliban if Afghan President Karzai is convinced that America will not abandon Afghanistan.

7. America won’t be alone. The Pakistani government did have ties to the Afghan Taliban, but once the Pakistani Taliban began attacking Pakistan in an attempt to overthrow the Pakistani government, the Pakistani government fully allied itself with America. Pakistan cannot allow American troops onto Pakistani territory, because the Pakistani people are suspicious of American motives; but Pakistan is doing what it can, by allowing the U.S. to launch missile strikes (from un-manned Predator aircraft) onto Pakistani territory.

Arguments By Those Who Believe That America Should Cut Its Losses And Withdraw From Afghanistan

1. The 9/11 attacks did not originate from Afghanistan. They originated from the CIA or Israeli intelligence, in order to “justify” the invasions of Muslim countries like Iraq and Afghanistan. Therefore, American troops should never have been in Afghanistan. Even if the 9/11 attacks did originate from Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, the Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. The Taliban hosted Al Qaeda based on the Taliban’s understanding that Al Qaeda were sincere Muslims who needed shelter. After Bin Ladin was accused of carrying out the 1998 bombings of U.S. Embassies in Africa, America asked the Taliban to turn Bin Ladin over to America. The Taliban said they would turn Bin Ladin over to America if America provided evidence that Bin Ladin was involved, but America provided no evidence. Regardless, the Taliban ordered Bin Ladin not to use Afghan soil to plan international attacks, and Bin Ladin agreed. The Taliban were not involved in planning or carrying out the 9/11 attacks. When America asked the Taliban to turn Bin Ladin over to America after 9/11, the Taliban again said they would turn Bin Ladin over to America if America provided evidence that Bin Ladin was involved in the 9/11 attacks. America refused to provide the Taliban with any evidence, so the Taliban refused to turn Bin Ladin over to America. Therefore, the U.S. should have just attacked Al Qaeda targets in Afghanistan, rather than overthrowing the Taliban government and trying to restructure the whole country.

2. Before 9/11, the Taliban were making a sincere effort to establish an Islamic state based on their understanding of Islamic law. Even if the Taliban were (and may again be) oppressive, America should not be sacrificing the lives of American soldiers, or American tax dollars, to protect Muslims from their own oppressive governments. Furthermore, many Muslims don’t want non-Muslim soldiers on Muslim land. American invasions of Muslim countries produce much more death and destruction than they prevent.

3. America has made a huge investment in building the Afghan army. It’s time for that investment to pay off. When American troops pull back, the Afghan army will keep the Taliban on the run. Furthermore, if there are no American troops in Afghanistan, fewer Afghans (like Najibullah Zazi, who pled guilty in the 2009 NYC subway plot) or Pakistanis (like Faisal Shahzad, who pled guilty in the 2010 Times Square plot) will try to attack American cities. (Both Zazi and Shahzad said they planned their attacks because of American intervention in Afghanistan.)

4. America has already proven that it will respond with severe force to an attack on the American homeland. There is no need for American troops to stay in Afghanistan forever.

5. It is not possible for America to defeat the Taliban. After nine years, the Taliban have proven themselves to be tough on their home turf and elusive. The Taliban fight and then melt away among the Afghan and Pakistani people. Then they strike again, and melt away again. They don’t plan to beat America militarily. They are just playing a waiting game, knowing that America cannot stay in Afghanistan forever.

6. America does not have reliable partners in the region. The Afghan government wants to cut a power sharing deal with the Taliban (because Afghan President Karzai believes America is not a reliable ally).

7. America does not have reliable partners in the region. The Pakistani military has been fighting the Pakistani Taliban in Pakistan, but Pakistani intelligence has been arming, training, and funding the Afghan Taliban in Afghanistan (to ensure that the Afghan Taliban are friendly to Pakistan if the Afghan Taliban return to power in Afghanistan). The Pakistani government does not allow American troops to enter Pakistani territory to fight Afghan Taliban who are retreating from Afghanistan into Pakistan, where they regroup for new attacks against American troops in Afghanistan. In August 2010, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said that the international community was losing the war against the Taliban because America and its allies had “lost the battle to win hearts and minds” in Afghanistan.

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  1. Chris Marchyshyn said

    on August 26 2010 @ 10:45 am

    Let me say firstly that a web site such as this one is very important. The issues of Islam in the western world need to be openly discussed by all for the benefit of all to understand that we are all human beings.

    I think it is important for practicing and non-practicing Muslims to talk about themselves and what they believe. I was raised Roman Catholic and at a very young age started questioning Christianity. My first recollection of this questioning happened when I was about 15 years of age. I reflected on something I had heard many times in every church service I attended. The belief I heard was basically that the only way to reach the kingdom of heaven was through Jesus Christ. Even at that young age in the 1970′s I was aware that 100′s of millions of people in the world did not believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Therefore, my church and religion was indirectly implying that non-Christians will not be saved and hence not go to heaven. Wow . . . I thought! That’s pretty arrogant, not to mention not very brotherly or sisterly. I asked a few other Catholics about this and they basically said that in the Catholic religion it is ok for non-Catholics to have a different religion. Of course, I was not satisfied with this explanation so I pressed further and posed the question about where do good non-Christians go once they die. I also pointed out that Catholicism is not a religion but basically a sect of Christianity. The answer I got was no better than the first explanation. Approx. 15 years later I had an opportunity to ask a young Catholic Orthodox priest at a family gather the same question. He advised that accepting Jesus Christ is one’s choice as a Christian and this our the way to heaven. He further explain that if one is a non-Christian then they make whatever decisions or choices required under their religious belief to get to their version of heaven. Wow…..How convenient! So let me get this right, in 2000 years of Christianity that’s the best answer that has been developed. I can only imagine the answers I would have got had I been a member of some rigid fundamentalist church. NO wonder the world is so divisive.

    Here’s the conclusion I have come down to after asking this question of many ordinary Christians for the past 3 decades, and a number of Muslims in the last 5 years. Organized religion is nothing more than a self serving hierarchical institution. The more one is a rational independent thinker the more he/she will not fit into any religion. In short, the more fundamentalist the sect of any religion the more it is true that its members are either mentally lazy or simple unable think on their own. These are people who want nice simple black and white answers.

    Christianity has been evolving in the Western World in order to stay relevant and therefore, survive. This has not always been the case though. A few hundred years ago I would be burned at the stake, or something similar, for saying what I have said here. In some Christian communities, particularly the US, I would be shunned and excommunicated even today.

    The many leaders in Muslim countries fear Islam evolving. They see how the Christian church has lost power in the West. They do not want this to happen in their country as it will become very hard to justify their dictatorship. So 100′s of millions of Muslims live in a pre 17th century world.

    As for Muslims in the West, I suspect there are many that are questioning the same things I have questioned. Although, I have not heard one yet. I suspect many moved to the West because they do not want to live in a pre 17th century culture. I also realize their are many things they want to keep from the culture, but mind control is not one of them. The Muslims that are not blind sheep in the West need to speak up if they ever want equality in the West.

  2. Hosam said

    on August 27 2010 @ 2:05 am

    I read your argument, Chris, and this is a common argument against religion, along the lines of… “Religion is the opiate of the masses”..
    But Islam in it’s true and ideal form does not promote an institution. What you may hear about these days on the news are the cases where the non-ideal form is promoted by one person or another.

    Islam is about getting each and every individual to know God and, hopefully, submit to Him. If people do this simple task, there is no need for arms/warfare/self-promoting institutions etc.

    p.s. sorry for the other viewers about our divergence from the original topic of this discussion.

  3. Chris Marchyshyn said

    on August 27 2010 @ 5:11 am

    Reply to Hosam: It is a common argument because in the West we have freedom of speech and freedom of thought for those whom choose to exercise their rational mind, which all people are born with. This freedom allows many things to be questioned including religion. This freedom was fought for by ordinary people. It was not handed to the masses as a gift. This level of freedom does not exist in many other parts of the world. There is censorship, enforcement of religious law and draconian punishment for breach of that law. Why? This type of dogmatic thinking and behavior use to dominant the West also, but for the most part the West has evolved beyond those times. Hypocrisy and greed still exists in the West. The two illegal wars in the Asia are glaring example of this, which the majority of people in the US, Canada, and the UK for example are now against for various reasons. Many in these countries were against these wars on moral grounds before the wars even started and protested throughout the West. OUr culture/society is a work in process and the West is much further along then the Islamic world; by a few hundred years.

    Islam has a hierarchical structure so much so that Islamic nation states have Sharia law and many are ruled by a monarchy. You can deny this reality all you like, however, the Saudi royal family is struggling with reform and are making some progress.

    There are some very fundamental reasons why ordinary Westerners are not choosing to emigrate to Islamic countries. On the other hand, many Muslims have chosen to move to the West. Why?

    If it is only for material gain, I say go back to where you are from. We have too many hypocrites as it is.

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